Sunday, August 03, 2008

Comment Worth Considering from Valdes's Opponent

Steve Gorham has sent back his candidate query below. I think everybody will like the answers.

I have appended the pile of abuse that I have taken for not condemning Mr. Shultz or whatever his name is. He is not Beelzebub, and his wife is not Vampira--although I recall her now that someone said she ran against Susan or April and must opine that hers is not the face that launched a thousand ships and burnt the topless towers of Ilium.

I claim the right to say a kind word about Hitler if I want to if the mood strikes me. Eva Braun kicked Blondie, Hitler's dog, when Hitler wasn't looking, but Hitler was kind to Blondie. And gave her a cyanide pill before he shot his brains out. That was thoughtful. I claim the right to find that slipping poor Blondie a cyanide pill so that she would die with her master an ok thing to do in a bunker right before you put a gun to your head.

There will be unfeeling louts who will defy me, but they won't change my mind.

These thugs who are beating up on an elderly, feeble, shy granny of ten should be ashamed of themselves.

Steve gorham's answers to the candidate query:

Would you oppose nepotism-buddy hirings like that just announced of Linda Kipley’s husband who has no experience in the field?

I would oppose any hiring practice that is not above board. We need to ensure that we are hiring the most qualified person in every instance. I am not a proponent of nepotism or “buddy” hiring.


  1. If you oppose violating the equal-opportunity hirings of buddies, relatives, and hangers-on that goes on routinely in this school system, what would you do to stop it?


As stated above I would oppose any hiring practice that is not above board. We need to ensure that we are hiring the most qualified person in every instance. I am not a proponent of nepotism or “buddy” hiring. I would demand that hiring policies are in place and followed to prevent this from happening. I would aggressively investigate any accusation and if substantiated ensure appropriate discipline is administered.


  1. In the name of open government, would you insist that the hirings recommended on the consent agenda administration appear with the job’s description and the applications of the candidates online?


I would consider this but would need to look at the hiring process in detail before making a decision.

  1. There is a woman applicant in the pool for the above job handed to Mr. Kipley whose national origin is Egyptian and who uses a walker. She has an accounting degree and years of experience in accounting with a major company.

All applicants should be reviewed and selected based on their qualifications and experience relevant to the knowledge, skills, and abilities for the job they are competing for.

  1. Are you ready to defend against an EEOC charge and an Americans with Disabilities charge if select an unqualified relative of an administrator and not a qualified woman By hiring Ms. Kipley’s husband who has no degree and no accounting experience?

All applicants should be reviewed and selected based on their qualifications and experience relevant to the knowledge, skills, and abilities for the job they are competing for.

  1. Would you insist that administrative jobs get advertising and not go automatically to the superintendent’s buddies?

I believe all job openings should be comprehensively advertised.

  1. Would you insist that administrative jobs have degrees in relevant fields?

I believe that having a degree in a relevant field is definitely a plus but it should not be the only criterion that is looked at when evaluating a potential candidate. Experience and portable skill sets should also weigh in on the decision.


  1. Would you consider an early-childhood terminal degree as adequate for chief-facilities officer?

I believe that having a degree in a relevant field is definitely a plus but it should not be the only criterion that is looked at when evaluating a potential candidate. Experience and portable skill sets should also weigh in on the decision.

  1. Would you think getting the Chief Government Relations officer should go to a kindergarten –degreed young woman whose chief credential was that she was protégée of an elderly male administrator concupiscent for the quietetide of retirement?

All applicants should be reviewed and selected based on their qualifications and experience relevant to the knowledge, skills, and abilities for the job they are competing for.

  1. Would you think one of the three administrators Jack Davis who mistreated Doug Erwin before Mr. Erwin won his court case against the school board for harassing him as whistle-blower should get the head of technology department when he has not one credit in technology but an early-childhood degree?

All applicants should be reviewed and selected based on their qualifications and experience relevant to the knowledge, skills, and abilities for the job they are competing for.

  1. Would you visit the schools and schedule meetings with teachers at intervals? If so, how often?



Absolutely, I would also schedule meetings with support staff. I understand that it is a team effort to educate our children and everyone plays a vital part. A school member should give attention to all of the hardworking professionals in our district who dedicate their careers to our children.



  1. Would you revisit the superintendent’s bloated salary and bring it in line with the teachers’ salaries so that the superintendent makes no more than four times the lowest teacher’s salary?

I would first compare her compensation level to that of her peers in other like size district before addressing her base salary. These results will provide us with the empirical evidence to make adjustments as required. I believe we should look at restructuring her bonus structure, life insurance, and retirement clauses in her contract immediately.

  1. The Professional Standards office has a reputation of sadism in punishment, of telling untruths, and of cooking up cases against teachers who criticize the administration. Would you have an overhaul of that office with a committee that has teachers and citizens on it?

I would not tolerate any department in our school district operating in this manner and would actively investigate any information indicating such behavior. In the spirit of sunshine and community involvement I would support having a committee of teachers, support staff, and citizens oversee such an investigation.

11. Attorney Tom Gonzalez promised a citizen and a media specialist that he would produce a pamphlet for teachers who must go to Professional Standards outlining their rights and obligations in that situation. He has not done so. Would you insist that he fulfill that promise?

I would insist that any member of our district who promises something fulfill that promise.

12. Would you have programs to minister to gifted students such as those in Oregon for foreign-language study sponsored by the federal government in such languages as Arabic and Chinese—the two growing populations that will increasingly demand our country’s political and economic attention?

I support expanding our language offerings to not only gifted students but to all our students. We live in a global economy and when our children leave our halls they should have the skills necessary to compete in a global world.

13. Have you read the files of the Doug Erwin case (available in Public Affairs Office)?

No, but time permitting I will try to read up on it.

14. Did you live in Hillsborough County when the Erwin case was tried? Who do you think was the most guilty for the circumstances that Erwin observed in the schools: theft, rigging bids, accepting below-standards buildings that leaked, buckled, and suffered ubiquitous water damage and ac breakdowns in two years of ac’s that should have lasted twenty years?

I believe that I was serving in the military during this timeframe. As a school board member I will not tolerate any of the above stated behavior. I will ensure that all credible accusations are investigated and guilty parties disciplined appropriately.

15. Would you agree for the taxpayers to pay negligent contractors first-class prices for 3rd-class work and materials?

No. We need to ensure that we are getting the highest quality work for the best price. Our children’s safety is dependent upon competent contractors and as a board member I will fight to ensure that we pay the best price possible for first-class work and materials.


16. Would you have fired Dr. Lennard, Mr. Davis, and Dr. Hamilton for their concerted retaliation against Mr. Erwin for repeatedly bringing these problems to their attention but which they ignored and, instead, plotted to make him quit is job?

I am not familiar with the situation nor was I around at the time that this occurred. Therefore I cannot in clear conscience cast judgment. However I will never tolerate retaliation against any employee of this district.

17. Would you have the courage to be the only board member to oppose something you think is wrong and speak up to say why you think it is wrong?

Absolutely, I am a man who stands by his convictions.



I am willing to believe that Schmidt is not on the up and up. But who is?


I supported both April and Susan when they ran for office. They were going to clean up ROSSAC. Instead, they have fallen in with the go-along-to-get-along creed that all board members seem to succumb to. They walk through the door to ROSSAC and morph into androids.


Susan is too gutless to utter a murmur on the podium; ditto April. April asked for the no-bid contracts to be open for bids. Kurdell and Olson jumped onto her for being "disloyal to the staff," and that quelled her enthusiasm for reform. She has been silent since. She can't take even a little cuffing around and get back up to fight.


I suggested that April have a blog. She opened one, and at first left some messages that got some protests from teachers and requests for further discussions. This stopped April's putting anything on the blog that educated the teachers or opened up controversial issues for discussion. I note she now puts a monthly message praising some teacher for winning an award or some such piffle.


I asked them both to put a teacher-student spot on the board agenda to welcome the most important part of the education community to feel free to come comment. They neither bothered to answer my request. So much for their concern for teachers and students. April distinguished herself by suggesting that there be a workshop on Spring after Ms. Elia had signed the contract for it. If she had been solicitous of teachers' having input into the adoption of a program that they will have to implement and that will give Ms. Elia another venue for "bonus" money, she would not have let Elia's purchase of the Spring slide by on the agenda and make the idiotic suggestion for a teacher workshop after Elia had already bought it with no teacher input and apparently no board input either.


I know Schmidt would be R2D2 for Ms. Elia. But I can't see much more activity for the good of the schools than he would do from April and Susan. They are too scared to do anything but sit on the dais and approve the agenda without bringing up one thing for discussion. How is that different from what Schmidt would do?


The Tribune held its nose and endorsed Susan against Schmidt. I don't see how it could have done anything else. The bottom of the barrel of the political class in the Bay Area runs for the school board. And the behavior of those who get elected to the board is egregiously bad.


Susan does nothing significant for the schools that I can detect. If a person has no courage, he or she is not likely to acquire any. I am afraid that describes Susan. I see nothing to prevent Susan from becoming another Carol Kurdell--mired on the board year after year and not doing diddly to improve the schools.


Mr. Schmidt's performance on the board is not likely to be any worse than Susan's. I am sure you are right about his pumping up his pension. But Susan's gouging the travel budget was no more admirable--especially in a county in which thousands of poor children can't participate in class programs because they can't afford to buy supplies. I don't see Susan's doing anything that benefits the schools to any significant degree. I would be happy to be wrong but fear that I am right. lee



From: Anonymous [mailto:noreply-comment@blogger.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:20 PM
To: tdecesar@tampabay.rr.com
Subject: [Lee Drury De Cesare's Casting-Room Couch] New comment on Comment Worth Considering from Valdes's Opponent.

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Comment Worth Considering from Valdes's Opponent":

Dave Schmidt is so disengenuous. He is obviously a plant by the administration.

In the LoWV debate he accuses Valdes of a conflict of interest then stupidly discloses himself as the real scoundrel.

Per the Tribune endorsement printed on 02 Aug 2008 Dave stated that everything at the school district was running ok and he didn't see the need for much change.

I fear that Schmidt has pulled the wool over your eyes Ms. De Cesare.

As for April. She gave Susan $100 and has NOT endorsed Ms. Valdes. Additionally Mrs. Griffin is not one of seven persons who GIVES Ms. Valdes her job. As a board member Mr. Schmidt WOULD be one of seven persons directly responsible for giving Mr. Elias spouse her job... and don't tell me that Mr. Elias contribution doesn't impact his feelings towards Elia.

Another interesting consideration is this: Mr. Schmidt's wife Janice Torgerson (aka Ms. Administration Hag) ran against Susan in 2004, then Mr. Schmidt ran against April in 2006 and now Dave is running against Susan Valdes. Why does this couple want so badly to infiltrate this board?

You're a very intelligent person, so think about it. Mr. Schmidt is currently making more as a fulltime administrator than he would as a board member. As a board member he would have to quit his "day job" with the district... so he would loose that income. Why would anyone want to move to a job with a lower salary unless they know there is another payoff to be had?

Let me put it together for you. Alot of money is moving around at HCPS for those willing to sell their soul. Add to that a much more advantageous rate of contribution into the board member's retirement account(s) and you have your answer: Mr. Schmidt is just another Lamb or Edgecomb who is out to use the system to beef up his bank account.

Additionally he is clearly of low intelligence. Even if he were in this for the right reasons (Which I am confident that he is not) I don't think he has the intellect to keep himself from being co-opted by the administration.

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Posted by Anonymous to Lee Drury De Cesare's Casting-Room Couch at 3:19 PM

From: dls649@aol.com

Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:43 AM

To: tdecesar@tampabay.rr.com

Subject: Re: letter

Mrs. Decesare: I accepted Mr Elia's campaign contribution to counter the campaign contribution from April Griffin to Valdes, as well as Griffin's open endorsement of Valdes. Mr. Elia said he respects my real-time ability to advance student achievement and tightly manage educational finances.

I am not running against his wife, I am running against Valdes. My entire campaign has centered around advancing student achievement, particularly at our Title 1 schools. When elected, I will rail against the superintendent for not properly supporting the district's two "F" schools, or the three others that are threatened to be closed by the state.

I also know that our teachers should never have to spend their own money supporting their classrooms buying supplies. This happens all the time, particularly in Title 1 schools. When elected, I will pound the table and hound the superintendent to better support our instructional staff.

Point is, Mrs. Decesare, my current work with the district is unblemished by ethical issues or those related to fiscal mismanagement. I've managed $17 million in federal grant funds and understand the need for return on investment of our tax-payer dollars. I won't need $50,000 for on-the-job training.

Dave Schmidt


-----Original Message-----
From: lee de cesare
To: dls649@aol.com
Sent: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:19 am
Subject: letter

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Mr. Schmidt: I received your letter in which you say that you answered my query about your response to the email I posted on my blog from the man who said your relationship with the administration would make y ou an acolyte of Elia if you got elected. I did not get an answer to that comment.

People are concerned that you are a plant by the administration especially since Ms. Elia’s husband made a donation to your campaign.

What people want to know is how you would be objective in your decisions on the board being an administrator yourself and given your implicit ties with the administration and given that Mr. Elia’s donation to your campaign confirms those ties. Her husband would not donate to your campaign, logic says, if she thought you were going to oppose her.

lee


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8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Dave Schmidt is so disengenuous. He is obviously a plant by the administration.

In the LoWV debate he accuses Valdes of a conflict of interest then stupidly discloses himself as the real scoundrel.

Per the Tribune endorsement printed on 02 Aug 2008 Dave stated that everything at the school district was running ok and he didn't see the need for much change.

I fear that Schmidt has pulled the wool over your eyes Ms. De Cesare.

As for April. She gave Susan $100 and has NOT endorsed Ms. Valdes. Additionally Mrs. Griffin is not one of seven persons who GIVES Ms. Valdes her job. As a board member Mr. Schmidt WOULD be one of seven persons directly responsible for giving Mr. Elias spouse her job... and don't tell me that Mr. Elias contribution doesn't impact his feelings towards Elia.

Another interesting consideration is this: Mr. Schmidt's wife Janice Torgerson (aka Ms. Administration Hag) ran against Susan in 2004, then Mr. Schmidt ran against April in 2006 and now Dave is running against Susan Valdes. Why does this couple want so badly to infiltrate this board?

You're a very intelligent person, so think about it. Mr. Schmidt is currently making more as a fulltime administrator than he would as a board member. As a board member he would have to quit his "day job" with the district... so he would loose that income. Why would anyone want to move to a job with a lower salary unless they know there is another payoff to be had?

Let me put it together for you. Alot of money is moving around at HCPS for those willing to sell their soul. Add to that a much more advantageous rate of contribution into the board member's retirement account(s) and you have your answer: Mr. Schmidt is just another Lamb or Edgecomb who is out to use the system to beef up his bank account.

Additionally he is clearly of low intelligence. Even if he were in this for the right reasons (Which I am confident that he is not) I don't think he has the intellect to keep himself from being co-opted by the administration.

Anonymous said...

I don't know what board meetings you are watching, but the ones that I observe do not reveal a passive April... anything but.

I thought that we were trying to bring accountability to this district by increasing the oversight of the superintendent. Schmidt has flat out stated to the Trib that he has no intent of holding the superintendent accountable. Susan has already put her money where her mouth is with the superintendents evaluation. It's not a matter of gaining nothing with Schmidt... you are actually losing ground with him.

I follow this school board very closely and can tell you that you couldn't be further off base in many of your assessments. Just because people don't carry on in public like a raving lunatic as you would have them do, does not mean that they are not fighting the fight. Your logic is incomplete, weak and fallible.

It seems to me that this is more about an ego that is bruised because true to form Mrs. Griffin does not bend her knee to anyone... including yourself and that chaffes you. You thought she would be YOUR potted plant and you were ok with that. Now you have no control or influence and it clearly maddens you.

You try to bully people when they don't do things YOUR way. Most are too intimidated by your pseudo-intellectual credentials to stand up to you.

Mrs. Valdes and Mrs. Griffin would be no better than the rest of the board if they kneeled to anyone including you.

It is sad to see such a proud and revered woman as yourself descend into the bowels of mediocrity

Anonymous said...

Ms. DeCesare:

It's a very dumb idea to vote for or support somebody just because you don't think they can be any worse than who's already in office; they *can* be worse and usually are. With Schmidt (or Schultz, as you sometimes call him) the chances are that he will be *much* worse. You've seen him in debates. You've read the turgid sludge of promises and self-justification that is his web site. You know that the spouse of the woman who he works for and will have to oversee gave him $500 (that's just a bit less than 10% of his campaign cash, by the way). How can you doubt that he would be worse?

Anonymous said...

I think Gorham is the better choice over Kurdell, and I like some of his answers, but I have to say I don't like how he repeated the same exact answer to multiple questions, even if the questions are similar. To me that makes it sound like he has set pat answers to certain types of questions. That makes me think he is a "politician" and takes out his cue cards and repeats the same thing whenever a certain situation arises. I think a reworded answer that is not like a mantra would have been better. Saying the exact same thing for multiple questions makes me think he is saying, "I will only say this much to this line of questioning, and I will not veer from my safe answer." He may not have meant it this way, but it is how I read it.

Anonymous said...

You say that Mr. Schmidt is not Beezlebub? Nor are Griffin or Valdes yet you vilify them. You would be well served to eat your own dog food on this one Lee. You are actually going to say with a straight face "Valdes is not going to do what I want, so I want Schmidt who is not going to do what I want either."? That is illogical.

Politics are about having influence. People get involved in order to influence the process (for better or worse).

Leadership is about motivating people to buy into what's important to you.

Let me ask you: Did you mentor Griffin and/or Valdes? Did you attempt to guide them?

Or did you ridicule them? Did you make ludicrous observations about such inane topics as their weight, appearance, intelligence? (The thought of a revered feminist attacking any woman in such a way is embarassing. It takes us back at least 40 years)

I think we all know the truth. It's well documented on this very site.

Within 6 months of both Griffin and Valdes' elections you had turned your venom on them.

During the first 6 months you did not try to mold or guide these fledgling elected officials instead you sat the sidelines then attacked and insulted them for any indiscretion real or percieved once you became impatient.

Is that how you think people can be motivated to take up a cause? Hardly.

Your acerbic conduct has done nothing but drive a wedge between yourself and the very people that you need to influence in order to accomplish your goals.

I think you would have had a very different experience with Griffin and Valdes if instead of throwing them into the tank with the sharks you had taken them under your wing and mentored them as they went through the very difficult task of transitioning onto the board. Had you taken this approach you would have positioned yourself as a leader and mentor to these young ladies and you would have naturally gained the influence that you seek.

I understand that you want results Lee, but you spend your time ranting ineffectually at any one who may be listenening.

Modifying your approach in order to cultivate constructive relationships with these young ladies would seem to be a better use of your time. I don't think it is too late either.

In both scenarios you don't get immediate gratification, but success does not currently loom large for you with or without Schmidt; and I can assure you of this: Your current approach will not get you where you want to go. It is slowly eroding the reverence that people hold for you though.

While you may have to invest some time in order to mentor and establish yourself as leader to these young ladies I am confident in knowing both of them that it would pay dividends many time over.

One thing is absolutely certain the day after the election, win or lose you will have no influence with Mr. Schmidt. He doesn't want a mentor. As such, your support of Schmidt serves only to position you for continued failure.

You also need to re-consider your math. You don't need 1 or 2 votes. You need 4 to turn this ship.

While you may disagree with Griffin and Valdes, they vote in line with your ideals. You are working to replace votes that you already have. You are working against yourself.

At the rate you are going you will likely pass away before you can seat a majority on this board.

If you want to see change in your lifetime, I stronly urge you to re-evaluate your approach and become the leader and mentor that you can be.

It's easy to be a Monday Morning Quarterback. Do you have the energy and courage to step onto the field?

Anonymous said...

If you're a teacher, the choices are easy.

Gorham and Valdes.

For District 7, the Mims guy is honorable, but really, "Read Good Books?" That tell us nothing. Kurdell? Her last vote challenging Mrs. Elia was in 1995. If you look at her website, the only accolades she can articulate are from 2004. Time for her to retire. Kurdell has defined why we need term limits. Can anyone really name anything she's done except vote "yes" for everything Mrs. Elia has recommended?

During the District 1 LWV debate, Schmidt had nothing, I repeat nothing, to offer teachers. It was obvious that his entire body of experience is administrative. He reminds me of Jack Lamb. If you want another Lamb, then Schmidt is your guy. Schmidt also seems to be a serial candidate, too...this is his second run along with his wife's one-time candidacy?

Schmidt has accepted a donation from Mrs. Elia's husband, and explains it as a reaction to April giving Susan a donation. Note to Schmidt: if you really are a candidate of choice, you would have refused the donation, and criticized April. Instead, you showed everyone it would be business as usual if you are elected.

The Tampa Tribune basically called Schmidt an uninspired candidate in their article endorsing Valdes. Here's the Tribune story.

Gorham and Valdes. Vote, folks, vote.

Anonymous said...

Lee,

I have noted something interesting as of late and want to share it with you.

Your coverage of Schmidt started with enthusiasm and high hope. You clearly percieved him as a change agent.

As people started to weigh in with concerns you stuck by your guns challenging people to bring you the proof of Mr. Schmidts perfidy.

Mr. Schmidt himself delivered this proof in the Valdes/Schmidt debate.

Your disappointment was clear, but you continue to push Mr. Schmidt. Apparently you will not change for the very selfish reason that you want to punish Susan for daring not to do things your way.

Lastly people have started to weigh in with some very valid and well thought out arguments and you defiantly stand by Mr. Schmidt.

Lee, if you cannot accept and admit your mistakes. If you cannot change your mind. If you cannot separate your emotions and personal feelings from your work how are you any better than the Abu-Ghraib administration that you struggle against?

One of the greatest injustices that you have railed against is Elias close minded arrogance. Her inability to consider external perspectives and change.

You are exhibiting these same behavioral traits. I am beginning to wonder if the real issue between you and Elia is that you are too much alike. After all, the most difficult person to live with is yourself.

You admit no mistake, you defiantly refuse to consider a change in your position, and you punish those who dare not to grovel at your feet (i.e. Susan and April). Sounds like the very injustices that drive you to fight against the Elia administration.

One of the greastest dangers in war is that we must remain ever vigilant to not become that which we struggle against.

Anonymous said...

Hear, hear, Anon 4:49!